Steven Crowley

Freelance Colorist Master Class?

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I was curious if anyone here has tried or looked at this course?  https://waqasqazi.podia.com/freelance-colorist  He also does videos here on youtube.   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZ_4tLOd-iu4zBDApQsZZTw

The class is expensive, and I'm trying to discern if it would be beneficial to me.  I'm still pretty new to all of this, and I'm hoping that one of the experts here could take a look and tell me if it looks legit or if it is just a lot of hype.  There are some preview videos throughout the course link.  I guess what I'm saying is i just don't know what I don't know.

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That does seem expensive, and his "over-salemans-ship" makes me nervous for sure. I personally would also like to find a very detailed online course to take... there are a lot of great courses for getting up and running, and the Lowpost courses are also great here, (which is why I joined) but it still would be great to have another outlet for real world techniques and problem solving workflows. So many courses are simple explainers as to what a "thing" does where I would really love to find something that gets to the heart of the matter. Not sure if this is any better but this guy Warren Eagle has some decent looking courses at FXPHD which is about 1/2 the cost of the link you posted. Let me know if you find something worth while!

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57 minutes ago, Shawn Convey said:

Not sure if this is any better but this guy Warren Eagle has some decent looking courses at FXPHD 

Some years ago I worked as an assistant in on of the Deluxe facilities in LA for a short period and I feel the fundamental techniques in the Lowepost professional course really represent how those colorists approached their shots from the ground up, and the theory is good too. You can do whatever is expected on a really high level the day you master those techniques and have trained your eyes to see what looks good. 

I paid for the bundle over at FXPHD to see if I have missed something useful and I have never been so disappointed. Someone should take their license for marketing their courses as secret / insider techniques, it's simply a scam.  Nothing inside-ish about what that guy teach at all, and it's super pricey. Warren got experience with many indie films, seems like a great guy and knows the buttons very well, no doubt about that, but look at his reel. You don't want that guy to teach you how to create nice images. And he certainly doesn't.  Sorry, but it's seriously bad. 

FXPHD is a place for quality courses and I love them,  but the Warren Eagle lessons doesn't belong there. I know many experienced colorists feel the same way, but keep it to themselves as Warren is a big contributor to the colorist society by arranging events and things like that.

I also watched Warrens beginner lessons even though I don't see myself as a beginner anymore and I would advice any newbie to stay away from them because it's important to develop good work habits and workflows from day one, or you will for sure struggle later in your career.

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16 hours ago, Tom Evans said:

the Lowepost professional course really represent how those colorists approached their shots from the ground up, and the theory is good too. You can do whatever is expected on a really high level the day you master those techniques and have trained your eyes to see what looks good.

Thanks for your candid and honest response Tom. I admittedly have not moved on to the Color Grading Tutorials here at Lowepost yet (still concerned more with editing with the new course here and with the BMD supplied manual and tutorials) but am now looking even more forward to digging in. 

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The Waqas guy as a good eye but that's about the only good thing I can say, looks like snake-oil otherwise. Anyone who starts a conversation (or leads their website) with their billings isn't someone I'd particularly want to associate myself with. Drinks on him, though. 

While the 'advanced' course on Lowepost wasn't particularly advanced, in my opinion all of the case studies that were put out a couple of years ago are still the best resource for learning how to grade anywhere on the internet and wish the site would get back to publishing more of them as it's very rare to get that level of insight from other colourists working at that level, so I'd read through those and Mixing Light's archive. 

Once you learn the bones of Resolve though the best way to get better is just to practice; being a good colourist isn't knowing a bunch of crazily technical methodologies; it's about applying very basic concepts  in an intuitive and effective way.

 

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39 minutes ago, Sam Gilling said:

While the 'advanced' course on Lowepost

It's a professional course, they're not saying it's an advanced course even though there is some advanced techniques in there too. In my opinion it's exceptionally good. To be honest, I'm a bit tired of hearing people chasing 'advanced courses', it's not about finding the most complicated techniques and node structures. It's about teaching simple methods and workflows that is used every day by professional colorists (much like you say) and that's where I see Lowepost deliver gold compared to most of the others. Remember, it' been made tons of blockbusters and thousands of creative looks with the three main color channels and brightness controls, how much more do you really need to become a good colorist? Understanding the fundamentals and the basics of color theory will really get you a long way fast.

I think I've been going through all the main beginner courses that are available and they tend to jump very early into all the new and fancy tools and secondaries, probably because they know new users like to fiddle around with them. They are also very version specific, meaning most of the time is used on the new tools and not so much on the craft itself.

I also agree with you that the colorist stories are very good and I tend to go back and read now and then and I always pick up new things.

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That's my mistake on the wording, I should've checked. 

Am hopeful for more content from Lowepost though, some BTS was posted a while back of interviews with very talented folks so would be great to see them released down the line. 

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11 hours ago, Thomas Singh said:

They are also very version specific, meaning most of the time is used on the new tools and not so much on the craft itself.

That has always been on of my issues with these types of things... more about what the knobs do and less about workflows and real world problem solving... But as I mentioned I haven't really gotten my hands dirty with the color tuts here on Lowepost and will do so in the weeks to come!

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On 3/16/2020 at 12:28 AM, Steven Crowley said:

I was curious if anyone here has tried or looked at this course?  https://waqasqazi.podia.com/freelance-colorist  He also does videos here on youtube.   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZ_4tLOd-iu4zBDApQsZZTw

The class is expensive, and I'm trying to discern if it would be beneficial to me.  I'm still pretty new to all of this, and I'm hoping that one of the experts here could take a look and tell me if it looks legit or if it is just a lot of hype.  There are some preview videos throughout the course link.  I guess what I'm saying is i just don't know what I don't know.

I would prefer to buy from him a class "How to earn money";)

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On 3/19/2020 at 10:12 AM, Dmitriy Kuznetsov said:

I would prefer to buy from him a class "How to earn money";)

Thanks for the input everyone.  This pretty much sums up what I've been thinking.  I'll save the money and put it towards a BMD Mini Panel ;)

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I just bought the course from Qazi and before I say more let me say I'm not done with the course and am only about half way through.

Having said that this is my initial thoughts:

So far it's all over the place. If you don't know Resolve pretty well already, forget it---  He promotes it as even for beginners and I don't think that's true. 

Qazi is not a teacher/trainer, that's obvious.  It's more of 'watch me work' kind of workshop thing... but he's all over the place, as I said. It's not a structured progressive course, it's more of a jump in halfway and go from there.

So far I've definitely learned some stuff but I've had to go outside the class and do a little research to figure out how that would work (such as using parallel nodes when refining skin tones) and why it works.  I feel like I need to take everything he does and go learn why it did what it did so I can understand it and how I might use it elsewhere.

I think he's a good colorist but I don't think he's a teacher.  I look to courses I've taken that I've come away from feeling like I not only learned a lot but got my money's worth like Ripple Training's Core Davinci Resolve course. It's planned out and I feel like I got a solid understanding of the whole program and the basics I need to work well with the software.  I consider them good teachers/trainers. 

My initial thought is this is more like an advanced workshop than a course. He does offer access to a facebook group and offers reviews of work as part of this course.

Once again: I'm not done with the class but considering Qazi offers a 30 day money back guarantee I'll probably take advantage of it.   I'd be happy to report back when I've completed it if anyone wants.

Hope that made sense and was of some help. 

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