Mazze August 28, 2020 Share August 28, 2020 Such nice rings you got there on your Element 😜 . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites
Jan Maarten de Wit August 28, 2020 Share August 28, 2020 On 8/28/2020 at 12:57 PM, Mazze said: Such nice rings you got there on your Element 😜 Expand If you love it, put a ring on it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites
Mark Mulcaster August 28, 2020 Share August 28, 2020 I learnt on Mistika - coming from a editing background I was “wtf?!” But you get to grips with it and the colour tools came on leaps and bounds during my time with it.Im now on Baselight and that’s a lot more locked in and it’s not restrictive but with mistika’s open timeline it was easy to cobble things together and properly comp from scratch. I guess that’s to do with it’s Compositor background.Hands down though Baselight colour management is head and shoulders above any other tool I’ve tried ( I’ve not tried them all though). Admittedly I’ve not tried to finish a whole project in Baselight as we online back in avid using the AAF round trip with Baselight for avid which in it itself is a handy as hell as my spelling is atrocious so I made for a appalling online editor [emoji1787] but I was delivering shows from conform through to final delivery including having to make editorial changes on the Mistika.It still wasn’t easy compared to everything in one box like resolve but I find anything but the simple bit of editing a real chore in Baselight...oh for the days when picture lock actually meant that and not “we’ve run out of money in offline” [emoji1787] The fact both are in essence layer based ways of grading meant it was a easy transition over to Baselight for me. I’d be curious to give Mistika another whirl and see what’s changed...I think I can still remember a few gestures [emoji23][emoji1787] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites
Jan Maarten de Wit August 28, 2020 Share August 28, 2020 @Mark Mulcaster Mistika has changed a lot in one year, and I really curious to see the full Mistika 10 Release. Right now they did a big overhaul on the colour-grade side of the software. On 8/28/2020 at 3:41 PM, Mark Mulcaster said: Hands down though Baselight colour management is head and shoulders above any other tool I’ve tried ( I’ve not tried them all though). Expand I newer played around with Baselight 'yet' and I am really curious about the differences in colour management compared to Mistika. What I like in Mistika that I can put a node on top of my timeline doing a trim pass quite easy. The canvas is super flexible to create all kinds of setups to make your life super easy. For instance put a framing node on top of your stack, reframe and export a 1:1 version, or 9:16 version and keeping the original 16:9 version intact with the original grading. This way I don't have to create 3 sequences with the same grade and corrections are super easy and clear. If you want the 9:16 version just bypass the node see screenshot. Since Mistika is node based and layer based you get the best of two worlds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites
Anton Meleshkevich August 31, 2020 Share August 31, 2020 (edited) On 8/28/2020 at 10:21 AM, Jan Maarten de Wit said: For me, Davinci Resolve feels like a dead end, with a big focus on hardware sales. Expand Totally agree. Tons of bugs in color tools aren't fixed from one version to another. Nodes colorspace work wrong in ACES: timeline colospace is rec709 gamma 2.4 instead of ap1 acescc(t). Node AP1 color space change white point which is useless. Gamut mapping works wrong in ACES. Canon Cinema Gamut have wrong white point in CST plugin. Unusable WB eyedropper and colorchecker matching in ACES. I reported most of these bugs with no luck. Hope someone from blackmagic read this post and finally add these bugs to a schedule for fixing. Finally they added a possibility to type in numbers for color mixer and to generate 65x65x65 LUTs. But most of improvements are for the new cut page. When Scratch will have groups for grading, more intuitive edit page and will give more freedom with color spaces, I probably switch to it. I've tried Scratch some time ago. It reacts IMMEDIATELY when I adjust color wheels while playing the footage! Edited August 31, 2020 by Anton Meleshkevich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites
Tom Evans August 31, 2020 Share August 31, 2020 Now that Flame included Lustre, I'm tempted to go that way. Pricey though, but you can't beat that finishing package. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites